Nathan Natas
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ANNOUNCING the Amazon.com KINDLE version of my BOOK
by Terry inhttp://www.amazon.com/i-wept-rivers-babylon-ebook/dp/b00fmhq4gk/ref=sr_1_1_title_0_main?s=books&ie=utf8&qid=1380884339&sr=1-1&keywords=i+wept+by+the+rivers+of+babylon+terry+walstrom.
i wept by the rivers of babylon is now instantly availabe at amazon.. i published the 6x9 trade paperback version last monday and the e-book book (non-kindle) versions.. http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/m0rtslaw.
i hope the decent reviews are posted before the customary savage knee-jerk jehovah's witness crew jumps on and finds the juggular.. .
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New Release At the 2013 Annual Meeting Of Jehavah's Witnesses.
by Brother Mike inunconfirmed rumors (but credible).
new bible.
new insight volumes (starting 2014 theocretic school year talks will be taken from the insight books).
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Nathan Natas
I hear they're going to slap some crap between two covers and call it "good."
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And so I felt inadequate again... for a moment
by ohnightdivine indespite knowing ttatt recently and trying my very best not to absorb the fds-supplied "knowledge" any further, i could not help but feel inadequate again during today's meeting.
strange, right?
yet, normal.
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Here are a few ideas I picked up years ago that helped relieve me of "theocratic performance anxiety:"
The JWs assert that the Bible is a communication from God to the members of Christ's BRIDE ( the anointed).
Thus it follows, as the Watchtower teaches, that the command to preach and otherwise outperform is a task given to the ANOINTED.
I never considered myself to be "anointed," and no one ever suggested I might be. If that is true for you too, a lightbulb should be coming on by now...
The Warchtower says it is your "priviledge" to "share" the work of the anointed. There's NOTHING that compels you to do so, however!
Take a day off!
Go fishing!
or sleep late!
Let the anointed "exert themselves vigorously," you're going for the Grand Slam breakfast at Denny's!
The idea of being someone's "bride" just never appealed to me.
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My Mom Is Finally Seeing The Light!
by minimus ini am very happy that my dear old mom is finally seeing the truth about the "truth".
what hit her like a ton of bricks is the latest wt.
study article that exalts the governing body and pretty much negates everything the bible students and russell, the founder of the watchtower, ever said was truth!.
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The worry is always "they've given such a large portion of their lives to the Watchtower, how will they go on knowing it was all for nothing?"
But the saying is, "Where there is LIFE, there is HOPE."
Maybe just knowing that they are now FREE of a LIE is comfort enough.
I really am happy for you Min, and especially so for your Mom.
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Writing a book
by DeWandelaar indear all,.
today i decided i will write a book.
it will not be a book about my findings or revelations about ttatt and neither will it be a book about my personal experiences.
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May I offer one suggestion?
In order to apeal to the largest possible audience, make sure your book contains an absolute minimum of Watchtower dogma and mythology and misology.
Try to keep it kinda-sorta mainstream Xtian.
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Terry's book: I WEPT BY THE RIVERS OF BABYLON
by tec ini just finished reading this book, by our terry, and i thorougly enjoyed it.
terry has an amazing gift for words and expression - as most of you already know - and he lured me in from the very start.
reading this book is an actual experience... and i don't want to say much more than that, because i don't want to color your experience as you read for yourself.. .
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[My attempt to post a link to http://www.lulu.com/shop/search.ep?type=&keyWords=i+wept+by+the+rivers+of+babylon&x=-888&y=-8&sitesearch=lulu.com&q= failed.]
It seems that the book is not on Amazon yet.
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Where Do You NOW Think Wickedness Comes From? The Devil or... ?
by LoisLane looking for Superman ini think wickedness comes from evil people.. there are many people in between the two extremes of, overly good people and overly evil persons.. i do not believe in a devil.. i think he is a concept dreampt up by evil ones to blame bad behavior, as a red herring, on anyone but themselves.. the watchtower makes up attrocious lies, brow beats good people not to better themselves,.
all the while, they are building their own empire.. they say, do not isiolate yourself.
it is not good for you.. but if you don't agree with them and their current teachings, you will be shunned, disfellowshipped.. that can and does, have earth shattering results.. so many things, i was taught as a born in, are now considered apostate teachings.
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Q.: Where Do You NOW Think Wickedness Comes From?
A.: My pants.
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Did Jesus really exist?
by slimboyfat ini had been wondering over the past few years whether there really was a historical jesus at all, until a few months ago when i read bart ehrman's latest book "did jesus exist?
" initially i was persuaded by his argument that the nt contains multiple sources that testify to jesus' existence.
but more recently i have been reading the christ myth position of richard carrier and his responses to ehrman.
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Maybe there was a person at that time in history, but he was no more the messiah than you and I are.
Today there are 52 people in the USA named "Clark Kent." None of them are Superman.
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Too many changes mean more changes to come
by Verenda ini just joined this site after researching the recent 'new light" my daughter is an unbaptized witness, as well as her husband and my grandchildren.
i was baptized in the 80s but i am inactive for years now because of changes and inconsintancies etc.. .
if the sheep and the goats teaching has been changed to happen after the great tribultaion, or after armageddon then this would mean that everyone would not be seperated or judged until after armageddon has occured.
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Highly reccommended:
(why do I get the plain-text editor?)
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Q.: What kind of scandal would cause most JW to leave the "truth"?
A.: I note that you specify "most JWs" in your question. For an answer, I think we need to look at WATCHTOWER history and look to see what caused massive, large-scale defections in the past. Fortunately, WATCHTOWER history offers plenty of these kinds of incidents to examine.
"New Light" will never do it. Yes, SOME will leave as a result of the cognitive dissonance caused by some "New Light," but that will never be cause enough for "most JWs" to pack it in. Look at what a relatively small impact the UN scandal caused. Most JWs just shrug that off as a lie even though if they call the Bethel Service Desk, the Service Desk will CONFIRM that it happened.
So, to cut to the chase, I think the answer lies in one word: RUTHERFORD.
The GB are mortal men and like the Mickey Mouse Club, they have to bring in a new member from time to time. IF one of these future GB members proves to be a NEO-RUTHERFORD -- a self-centered sociopathic power-seeker -- THAT could be straw that breaks the camel's back for "most JWs."
Certainly WE of the Apostate Legion have no control over such an ascension. The next beast in the image of Judge Rutherford must arise from the chaotic 'sea' of official Dubdom, an organization by and for MEN. We need only remain vigilant, patiently waiting and watching for that Great Day.
When it happens, the WATCHTOWER will be shattered into hundreds if not thousands of fragments, many being, as there have been today, small home-based groups, but there will also be millions worldwide who will be wondering what to do now. Some will fall prey to almost anyone low enough to offer everlasting life in exchange for submission. Many others will try to make sense of the "new world" they now find themselves in.
That's what I think, and I'm sticking to it until I change my mind.